Orchestra
Juan Carlos Cobián
Juan Carlos Cobián (born 31 May 1896, died 10 December 1953) was a pianist, composer and bandleader who led sextets and orchestras in Buenos Aires and New York [1][2][4]. In 1928 his orchestra recorded for Victor with the singers Francisco Fiorentino and Genaro Veiga [1][5][12].
Juan Carlos Cobian recordings indexed 1923–1944
Juan Carlos Cobián was born on 31 May 1896 [4]. He moved to Buenos Aires in 1913 and worked there as a pianist in a beer hall and in silent-film cinemas [1]. He later played with Eduardo Arolas at the cabaret Montmartre, although the two Todo Tango biographies date this association differently [1][2].
In 1922 he led his own sextet at the Abdullah Club, and in 1923 he led a band at the McAlpin Hotel in New York [1]. In 1928, back in Buenos Aires, he led an orchestra with the singer Francisco Fiorentino and recorded again for Victor [1]. He led later orchestras at the cabaret Charleston and on Radio El Mundo, and he died in Buenos Aires on 10 December 1953 [1][2].
History
Cobián moved to Buenos Aires in 1913, where he played piano in a beer hall and in silent-film cinemas, among them the Buckingham and Las Familias [1].
1923: 2, 10; 1928: 15, 53; 1944: 6, 96
One biography states that in 1914 he released his first tango, El motivo, and met Carlos Gardel while playing with Eduardo Arolas at the Montmartre [2]. Another states that in 1916 he played in a trio with Eduardo Arolas and Tito Roccatagliata at the cabaret Montmartre [1]. The sources therefore differ on when his association with Arolas at the Montmartre took place [1][2].
In 1919 he did his military service in the 2nd Infantry Regiment, much of it under arrest [1]. In 1922 he joined Osvaldo Fresedo's sextet at the Abdullah Club and then led his own sextet there with Pedro Maffia and Julio De Caro [1].
In 1923 he left for the United States, where he led a band at the McAlpin Hotel in New York [1]. By 1928 he was back in Buenos Aires, leading an orchestra with singer Francisco Fiorentino and recording again for Victor [1].
In 1936 he formed a new orchestra for the cabaret Charleston, at Florida and Paraguay [1]. In 1937 he returned to the United States and later moved on to Mexico [2]. In 1943, back in Argentina, he led his orchestra on Radio El Mundo before retiring [1]. He died in Buenos Aires on 10 December 1953 [2].
Musicians
Computed from the catalogue, not yet written by anyone
Line-up by year
The musicians the sources place in the orchestra each year. Someone with no end year is shown only in the year they joined.
- 1936
Ciriaco Ortiz (bandoneon)1
- 1944
Singers
Francisco Fiorentino sang with the orchestra in 1928 [1]. Genaro Veiga also sang with the orchestra in 1928.
First to last recording together · source: TangoCloud catalogue · tap a bar for the takes · Every singer and orchestra
- Francisco Fiorentino1928 · 10
- José Balbi1944 · 2
- Jorge Cardozo1944 · 3
- Genaro Veiga1928 · 4
Recordings
The orchestra recorded for Victor in 1928 [1]. Recording listings for the orchestra from 1928 include the following titles:
Most danced
12 of 23 recordings
From TangoTube dances
- La casita de mis viejosJuan Carlos CobianJosé Balbi
- El motivoJuan Carlos Cobiansinger unknown
- RubíJuan Carlos CobianJorge Cardozo
- Rey de copasJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
- El unico lunarJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
- ShushetaJuan Carlos Cobiansinger unknown
- Lamento pampeanoJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
- CharlatanJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
- MariónJuan Carlos CobianJosé Balbi
- LadrónJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
- Rosa carminJuan Carlos CobianJorge Cardozo
- Me querésJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentino
Repertoire
Periods
Connections
In their words
una versión de «Amor y nostalgia», que me pareció que era un tango que se podía adaptar muy bien al inglés, porque su música es medio blues, hecha por Juan Carlos Cobián
Guillermo Fernández · GUILLERMO FERNÁNDEZ Tengo una pregunta para vos (por Pepa Palazón) with ENGLISH subtitles.
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Read more
- BiographyBiografía de Juan Carlos CobiánTodo Tango (todotango.com), by permission
- BiographyBiografía de Juan Carlos CobiánTodo Tango (todotango.com), by permission
- Websitewww.wikidata.org
- EncyclopediaJuan Carlos CobiánWikipedia (es), CC BY-SA 4.0
- EncyclopediaLeopoldo FedericoWikipedia (es), CC BY-SA 4.0
- EncyclopediaMiguel MonteroWikipedia (es), CC BY-SA 4.0
- EncyclopediaBiografía de Santiago Devin por Juan Ángel Russo - Todotango.comTodo Tango (todotango.com), by permission
- EncyclopediaBiography of Alberto Lago - Todotango.comTodo Tango (todotango.com), by permission
- EntryFrancisco FiorentinoSinger
- EntryJosé BalbiSinger
- EntryBuenos AiresPlace
- EntryAntonio Rodríguez LesendePerson
- EntryCiriaco OrtizPerson
- EntryLeopoldo FedericoPerson
- EntryMiguel MonteroSinger
- EntrySantiago DevincenziSinger
References
- 1.Biografía de Juan Carlos Cobián · todotango.com
- 2.Biografía de Juan Carlos Cobián · todotango.com
- 3.www.wikidata.org · wikidata.org
- 4.Tangopedia staff · tangopedia.app
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Its singers.
Data: recordings, facts and sources
Also: its leader, Juan Carlos Cobian
Notes15
Moves to Buenos Aires and plays piano in a beer hall and silent-film cinemas, among them the Buckingham and Las Familias.1913
Releases his first tango, El motivo, and meets Carlos Gardel while playing with Eduardo Arolas at the Montmartre.1914
Plays in a trio with Eduardo Arolas and Tito Roccatagliata at the cabaret Montmartre.1916
Writes Salomé, an early tango-romanza.1917
Does his military service in the 2nd Infantry Regiment, much of it under arrest, and writes A pan y agua.1919
Joins Osvaldo Fresedo's sextet at the Abdullah Club, then leads his own sextet there with Pedro Maffia and Julio De Caro.1922
Leaves for the United States; in New York he leads a band at the McAlpin Hotel.1923
Back in Buenos Aires, leads an orchestra with singer Francisco Fiorentino and records again for Victor.1928
Forms a new orchestra for the cabaret Charleston, at Florida and Paraguay.1936
Returns to the United States, later moving on to Mexico.1937
Back in Argentina, leads his orchestra on Radio El Mundo before retiring.1943
Dies in Buenos Aires.Dec 10, 1953
Composed “Los mareados” (1922).May 4, 1922
El Chopin del tango
First pianist to fill the bass silences of the melody with ornaments
Sang with8
José Balbi — sang with Juan Carlos CobianMay 3, 1944
Francisco Fiorentino — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian1928
Antonio Rodríguez Lesende — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian1936
Miguel Montero — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian1943
Santiago Devincenzi — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian
Alberto Lago — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian
Jorge Cardozo — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian1944
Genaro Veiga — sang with Juan Carlos Cobian1927
Leader's place of death1
Its leader died in Buenos AiresDec 10, 1953
Known for1
Is known for Una droga; Shusheta; Piropos; Viaje al norte1922
Played in2
Ciriaco Ortiz — played in Juan Carlos Cobian1936
Leopoldo Federico — played in Juan Carlos Cobian1944
Listen
- ShushetaJuan Carlos Cobiansinger unknowntango
- PololaJuan Carlos Cobiansinger unknowntango
- El marcaoJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Lamento pampeanoJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- LadrónJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Me querésJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Mujer de fuegoJuan Carlos CobianGenaro Veigatango
- CharlatanJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- El unico lunarJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Recostado en un farolJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Rey de copasJuan Carlos CobianFrancisco Fiorentinotango
- Pinta bravaJuan Carlos CobianGenaro Veigatango
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